The metallic control would be the main factor for me, if it is a metallic color I would go with Tec/Base. 0000020812 00000 n Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], Google Adsense [Bot], Majestic-12 [Bot], Polish Painter and 87 guests. Axalta Increases ColorNet User Productivity with Integrated Video Tutorial System Polyvance Releases New 6204 Hot Spot Cordless Plastic Stapler. Vic , Bn no cn t vn k ton , BCTC, ch k s, phn mm bo him, ho n in t Tho lun k ton, House Of Crafts Creative Glass Painting Kit, Painted Gray Kitchen Cabinets Before And After, Cc anh ch cho e hi cht, em lm k ton bn hng Taxi. When you buy Tec Base you are getting allot more pigment in the can than with Crossfire. The maroon didn't cover worth a sheet and was a real pita. Awesome Job!!! Lately I've been using alot of the new budget Crossfire clears 15410 and 15420, they spray nice, are low odor, have great doi and setup faster and harder than anything from Martin Senour that I've used. Does the paint ship out of the same wharehouse as the rest of the parts or is that a seperate outfit being its really Sherwin Williams? Tec/Base is better in every way except price, and with the better coverage and a 1:1 mix ratio instead of 2:1 you probably can get about the same coverage out of 2 qts of Tec/Base that you would get out of a gallon of Crossfire. The Martin Senour website does not show the mixing ratio for this specific paint, does anyone know offhand? Third car I've done with it and I like it better every time I use it! Available as an intermix color system and in popular industrial and equipment factory packaged colors PCC 35 VOC Acrylic Enamel Single Stage Color is a versatile coating that is available in both 1K and 2K mixing options. BondoKing's Profile; It looks really bright! In short, the color match is better with Tec/Base (I am told) and coverage is slightly better. 0000006869 00000 n There is a huge difference. I am geting ready to put down their epoxy primer. 0000002761 00000 n Thanks! Click here to purchase Tamco Primers and Clearcoats, Martin Senour Users - Crossfire vs Tec/Base. Martin Senour automotive paint training courses are designed to provide hands-on knowledge in a variety of areas that are of direct interest to the automotive painting professional. You are using an out of date browser. The paint guys won't be in tomorrow. Our website has been redesigned and updated! All the product data sheets for Martin Senour products can be found. Find a drawing idea that suits your needs. Mar 19 2010 6. CrossFIRE National Rule Gallon Basecoat. 0000006563 00000 n The PRO Body Filler series is formulated with an advanced proprietary resin blend and adhesion booster to provide maximum adhesion to galvanized bodypanels aluminum and steel offering a premium solution for a variety of markets such as collision repair manufacturing walk-in and many more. 0000002163 00000 n Terrific thread! hb```e``{ A2l,;p dg`xWt+H. Martin Senour develops, manufactures, and distributes a complete portfolio of high quality coatings and supplies for all PB&E marketing segments, including; Collision Repair, Restoration & Custom, Fleet & Commercial, Manufacturing & Industrial, and Farm & Agricultural segments. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I did reduce the clear a little though. It's "good enough" for not so fussy work. 0000009897 00000 n 0000005259 00000 n Martin Senour develops, manufactures, and distributes a complete portfolio of high quality coatings and supplies for all PB&E marketing segments, including; Collision Repair, Restoration & Custom, Fleet & Commercial, Manufacturing & Industrial, and Farm & Agricultural segments. 0000007563 00000 n I looked in that link previously and did not specifically see the Crossfire 5.0 listed, am I missing something obvious? Crossfire 50 single stage should mix. My personal belief is that the Crossfire is just thinned down Tec Base. Bottom line is it's not Tec Base, but it doesn't cost near as much even when you factor in the amount of extra paint you have to buy to acheive the same coverage as Tec. Cross/FIRE offers ease of application, a large color palette, and excellent gloss. 0000006611 00000 n The CC5000 would print for days whereas most of the others wouldn't print the next day except for maybe 8888, that one is a little slower than the others. Theo TT200, mt s ti khon thay i, vy vay ngn hn ngn hng tr, cc anh ch i, em c 1 vn nh anh ch gip. Liquid. The camaro is HOK cinnamon pearl. Mix System Configurations 6H Requirements Troubleshooting Guide. In short, the color match is better with Tec/Base (I am told) and coverage is slightly better. ProBASE Single Stage and Basecoat Mixing Configuration PBT PBS CrossFIRE Overall Refinish System. It didn't seem to dry well or fash. :thumbup: I assume she only gets to bring you the damaged mixing components and you are on your own as to how to make a base out of it. I did lay down three coats over a very-yellow tinted urethane primer..Just to make sure. CN TUYN NHN VIN K TON The Nova is really nice, but what color is that Camaro 427? Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], Polish Painter and 86 guests. Crossfire line. The paint guys won't be in tomorrow. Please contact us if you do not find the Martin Senour color you need. Martin Senour automotive paint training courses are designed to provide hands-on knowledge in a variety of areas that are of direct interest to the automotive painting professional. Espaol, Stay up to date on the latest news from Martin Senour, Fleet & Manufacturing Specification Guide. Well mixing automotive paint is really a lot simpler than you think. I'm new to painting and didn't realize the terminology. I believe this is the appropriate tech sheet for what you are using. I started using Martin Senour paints mainly because I have a very good relationship with the NAPA store and know that the paint guy there knows his stuff and is usually very helpful. Martin Senour Automotive Finishes Find your Rod & Restoration Color With over 200 custom and restoration colors to choose from, we've made finding the perfect color for your restoration project easy! Thanks and have a great day! All the product data sheets for Martin Senour products can be found here. Brand: CROSS/FIRE: Container Size: 1 qt (US) Paint Product Application: Spray . CrossFIRE is an economical high-quality mid-range coatings system for use in facilities specializing in high-volume overall repaints and fleet refinishing. JavaScript is disabled. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. The Martin Senour website does not show the mixing ratio for this specific paint, does anyone know offhand? 0000018345 00000 n Identification:::: Manufacturer :MARTIN SENOUR PAINTS 4440 Warrensville Center Road Warrensville Hts., OH 44128-2837 Relevant identified uses of the . CROSS/FIRE: Paint Product Application: Enamel Sealer . Trong nhm mnh c ai tng lm k ton cho sam sung k?? If you look in my photo album the orange Nova is done in Crossfire base that I had custom mixed using Staight CF103 mixing color with the basecoat fixer and balnce solvent added in the proper ratios by my jobber.[/QUOTE]. I just choked on the price of Martin Senour's Tech Base in a 2006 Dodge 'Top Bannana' gallon of paint. 0000004081 00000 n Thanks. The advanced technology in these products. I know you know your stuff Barry, why is there a preference for some mixing ratios? 0000006755 00000 n I just did this 71 Super Beetle last Thursday using the Crossfire Base/Clear. M T CNG VIC: Primers OK..paint marginal. General Discussion. I have asked him this question also but am soliciting other opinions. Thanks for the quick replies and great information. Cho c nh , c ai np thuyt minh bo co ti chnh nm qua mng cha , sa, Cho c nh HTH. I do alot od custom work and it would leave tape trackes in it. Looks like I'll using Tec/Base for my other projects as I'm looking at silver and metalic red for those and thus far haven't necessarily been able to concur my fight with metalics so any help the Tec/Base can give me might be worth the extra cost. Crossfire 5.0 single stage should mix: 8:4:1 = Paint + Cr series reducer + Ch253 hardener. Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], Polish Painter and 86 guests. Martin Senour develops, manufactures, and distributes a complete portfolio of high quality coatings and supplies for all PB&E marketing segments, including; Collision Repair, Restoration & Custom, Fleet & Commercial, Manufacturing & Industrial, and Farm & Agricultural segments. Espaol, Your Partner in Increased Productivity and Profitability, Delivering Quality & Speed To Keep Your Fleet On The Road. Cross Fire 3 5 Voc Hs Basecoat Color C3 Martin Senour Auto. trailer . the "Super Gloss" uses 4:1 -- product number is 15350 the "High Solids" uses 8 of CC3500 to 4 of CLV reduced to 1 of hardener. I'm new to painting and didn't realize the terminology. Martin Senour offers a product solution for all markets, Stay up to date on the latest news from Martin Senour, Fleet & Manufacturing Specification Guide. 0000002897 00000 n 0000041319 00000 n Anyone use NAPA 'CrossFire' Paint? I got to much orange peel mixing it straigh up 41. 13 posts Page 1 of 2 1, 2. . Thanks! Martin Senour offers a solution for all applications, and for all levels of production. It does negate some of the cost savings though. 0000006478 00000 n i used martin senour primer and sherwin willams paint. Cng ty em ang lm th ng k, CTY TNHH SX TM DV PHT TRIN PH QU PHT CROSSFIRE National Rule Compliant Urethane Enamel is primarily an overall refinish line. I'm guessing it's 4:2:1 but don't want to guess and be wrong. 625 0 obj <>stream My local napa shop switched to it. I believe this is the appropriate tech sheet for what you are using. %%EOF 0000006659 00000 n Martin Senour offers a product solution for all markets. English They have an inhouse paint dept so it could be anything from a bent can of Crossfire etching primer to Tech base paint. Great looking paint job bloverby!!!!! Please call store at 425 823-2251 Buying Options. Best clear over Martin Senour TEC/Base? I believe this is the appropriate tech sheet for what you are using. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. CROSSFIRE National Rule Compliant Urethane Enamel is primarily an overall refinish line. 0000047783 00000 n I was told by the guy who runs the local automotive paint supply that this is a good paint for a DIY. I'm happy with my $500 paint job. This is fresh from the booth. The metallic control would be the main factor for me, if it is a metallic color I would go with Tec/Base. Make yourself at homeread, ask and answer! Click on the link to the products you are using. Madison, WI. Martinsr, I guess I am just skeptical about products whenever marketing executives are involved. 0000038022 00000 n Spray painting for beginners After watching this you will be 100 sure your paint is mixed correctly. Martin Senour offers a product solution for all markets. 0000002015 00000 n Pricing is temporarily unavailable online for the part. I use a ton of Crossfire on stuff where color match isn't an issue. CrossFIRE 28 Single Stage 35 Basecoat Quart. 0000013570 00000 n On the front fender to see how it sands and it sands and buffs great. Tec/Base is better in every way except price, and with the better coverage and a 1:1 mix ratio instead of 2:1 you probably can get about the same coverage out of 2 qts of Tec/Base that you would get out of a gallon of Crossfire. I haven't used any of the new Tec Clears. Their single stage has covered the few times I have used it and is fine for reshooting panels for OEM repairs or junk like that on stuff like old vans. Click here to purchase Tamco Primers and Clearcoats, Martin Senour Crossfire 5.0 Urethane mix ratio -- not on web. No clear is necessary to produce a gloss. This link I posted in the last sentence of my previous post IS FOR CROSSFIRE 5.0 SINLGLE STAGE. I looked in that link previously and did not specifically see the Crossfire 5.0 listed, am I missing something obvious? Your email address will not be published. Lots of questions. The Crossfire is a good product but color match isn't good from batch to batch (supposedly), coverage is slightly less. The clear is fine. Cross/FIRE IP Performance Urethane Single Stage . Crossfire 5.0 single stage should mix: 8:4:1 = Paint + Cr series reducer + Ch253 hardener. What color is the orange on the side? As far as I can tell Crossfire is just thinned down Tec/Base with a lower price! You may need to reduce it more to get it out of the gun. Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], Polish Painter and 86 guests. You can find a match of any Martin Senour color on MyPerfectColor. Paint water paint sprayer paint strainer thinner face mask safety goggles test board and sprayer tips. I have used the white base as a ground coat to help with coverage as well. Remember dont think of the compone. 0000043756 00000 n Single stage paints are a stand alone type of paint. JavaScript is disabled. 0000038059 00000 n 0000016871 00000 n Buy Paint Primer Surfacer Hardeners Crossfire Epoxy Primer - MS QTCH200 online from NAPA Auto Parts Stores. The primers seem fine although I heard pro's complain about the epoxy (I twas part # cph400 or something like that) being too slow drying for them. 0000001824 00000 n I did a 69 Mustang for a friend who bought the crossfire base clear a few years back. 0000035372 00000 n Prism M Single Stage Color 60 Martin Senour Auto Martin Senour Paints 109 6 Cascade Green Precisely Matched For Paint And Spray Paint Martin Senour Paints 44 4 Vanilla Cream Precisely Matched For Paint And Spray Paint Crossfire Martin Senour Paint Mixer, Hardener, Reducer, Sealer, Toner (QTCH258, Hardener) $32.50 Color: QTCH258, Hardener + + This item: Crossfire Martin Senour Paint Mixer, Hardener, Reducer, Sealer, Toner (QTCH258, Hardener) $32.50 Kleanstrip Prep-All Wax & Grease Remover, Gallon (KLE-GSW362) $28.99 TCP GLOBAL Premium Paint Mixing Essentials Kit. 0000014738 00000 n <<0A7E168BEB92384CB42935EC5C9A08A8>]/Prev 109263/XRefStm 1824>> Low cost option with thousands of OEM color options, Fleet & Manufacturing Specification Guide, CrossFIRE 5-0 VOC Urethane Enamel Single Stage Color 55. 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