Also how in the heck would he access shadesmar being just a seer? Press question mark to learn the rest Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I shall see if I can't find the proper quote. For all we know, this could be only years following the re-structuring of Scadrial and the rise of Sazed as Harmony. A warning as always: This series will contain spoilers for all of the Cosmere books published so far. However, he is far too crafty to make it that easy to catch him. Here's the topic where Felt the Worldhopper of House Venture was discovered (or the possible worldhopper, that is). Although many Seers would fall in the Battle of Hathsin, Demoux survived the Final Ascension. Some of them are not aging and others are just aging really slowly. Can be put on any tail feather, and will last until the feat Oh I hadn't thought of that, he has also said we've seen Rosharan worldhoppers before without knowing it so that's possible. Maybe the terris had sercet info about the 17th shard she shared with Demoux that never came up in mistborn because Sazed didn't think it applied. Worldhoppers' time is going to pass normally unless they can stay near large collections of Investiture. In theory; getting to Sel is really tough.[17]. How and why, we do not know, but the mere fact that Demoux shows up intWoK proves there possibly is a way for him to get there without burning Atium. Knowing how loyalDemouxis, he wouldn't just leave Aslydin behind like that. Something to keep in mind ), Lets head away from Nalthis now. Hobby Enemies When Yeden decided to attack a fortified position, others stayed back at the cave believing this was not Kelsier's wish. Yeah, you have an excellent point. -Welcome to the Hero/Protagonist wiki! Shai is also another Worldhopper.. if I am not mistaken.. is that confrimed? he shows up in Way of Kings, actually, looking for Hoid. ah ok thanks! There are likely others out there that traverse the worlds beyond their home. Some people you meet, you'll notice As a Returned on Nalthis, Vasher needed regular infusions of Investiture to stay alive. InThe Stormlight Archive, he appears to be working hard against Odium. Roshar is of itself particularly dangerous, for the spren there are far more powerful than their diminished counterparts in the Physical Realm. But why would he choose demoux to be a worldhopper? So to become a worldhopper but that still don't tell us how it actually is done. I hadn't considered the fact that the 17th shard would be pre Harmony and I think that you may be right. Well after some digging, I can find nothing. He is in possession of all sorts of Invested artifacts, including Hemalurgic spikes, the Tears of Edgli, Amberite Aethers, White Sand from Taldain, an Aviar from First of the Sun, and more. Brandon Sanderson. So no idea. He's then seen on Roshar in The Way of Kings. Although I'd say that investiture is involved in it, since every known worldhopper was already a magic user before. Three members appeared inThe Way of Kings, in the Ishikk interlude, searching for Hoid. There is time dilation. A community to discuss the fantasy series The Stormlight Archive by Brandon Sanderson, along with other Cosmere-related works. Aslydin sounds pretty terris to me. Yep, (most of) the Heralds are worldhoppers. In some cases, like in my Cosmere Primer, Ill be drawing on Words of Brandon (WoBs) for further information. However, his motivations arent totally virtuous: In The Way of Kings, he tells Dalinar that hes willing to see Roshar burn if he can achieve his goals. With some hemalurgy or some other hack he could have gotten Atium Feruchemy and used that. Zahel, the grumpy swordsman and teacher. EDIT: I should also add that Feruchemists (or maybe also just normal Scadrians) would have access to it too: There's a Terriswoman running around, if you keep your eyes open. Unknown. Yep, theres a kandra running around on Roshar. If you remember Marsh had a bag of atium beads that he stole from the Kandra. This is an interesting idea to me. (I had this crazy theory, which I wrote up at one point with details but don't remember any more, is that he and Spook gained access to spikes for Feruchemy - or even a host with full Feruchemy built into it - via the First Generation of kandra, who were originally human Feruchemists like Rashek had been, and perhaps still were on a Spiritual or Cognitive level the way we see former koloss appearing as human again in Secret History), You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. I do like the idea of Demoux kind of tagging along for the ride via his love interest. Maybe people with more Investiture in general have an easier time, but not specifically those who can burn atium. Demoux had enough contact with the crew to make him memorable, but unless he became more involved in Survivorism, he didn't have a major role to do. It's not a space station; it's not that futuristic, but there is a place in the cosmere where a lot of Worldhoppers have settled, it's where Iyatil is from, even though her ethnicity is not from there.[19]. He first appeared on Roshar inWords of Radiance, when he was attempting to sketch the men of Bridge Four, and his notes appear on several of the maps and illustrations inOathbringerincluding the chart of wines and the map of Shadesmar. But it doesn't make sense to me. (laughter) Thats a good question, the answer is no. Likely, If Harmony turned him into a full blown mistborn, then he could have burned duralumin with the time stop metal to place himself outside of time for awhile. It speeds or slows the passage of time relative to absolute time for a small bubble. Seriously, I don't know. There is a word of Brandon that indicates that Nicrosil works in a similar manner to copper: something distinct (memory/investiture) is removed from the individual and is later restored. On Roshar, I bet that's what the Surge of Transportation is for. When he ventures into the mists for the first time, he is stricken down by them, becoming one of the mistfallen. Demoux is revealed to be a preacher for the Church of the Survivor. Community Software by Invision Power Services, Inc. 2) Aslydin is in the Seventeeth Shard, and had her own work to be about. Dockson, Teft, Siri, and many others; they're all still compelling without needing magic to make them that way. How about in the Cognitive Realm? Is Demoux the Kandra? Q. Demoux is a loyal man to Kelsier and a terrific leader. Also, the Oathgates also seem to operate by traversing the Cognitive Realm, but just how this works remains a mystery. Remember that BS promised the friend whom Demoux is named for that You can correctly. Jasnah Kholin | There may be Surges, Awakenings, glyphs of some other Investiture that allows other effects, but they have yet to be seen. The lake in the Horneater Peaks, mentioned by Rock inWords of Radiance, is one such perpendicularity. Webhow did demoux become a worldhopper Blog. The Cognitive Realm may be a home to dreams and ideas of men, but some of those dreams are nightmares and come with some serious teeth. Or there was an unforeseen consequence for Atium-dragging like was done in the final battle in HoA. A: Is there a planet in the cosmere where Worldhopping is common knowledge. Carrying on with that train of thoughts, every worldhopper is also apparently ageless, and we know that massive investiture grants it. Knowing how loyal Demoux is, he wouldn't just leave Aslydin behind like that. They restore order and lend organization to the Terris people who had been flooded with refugees. He's then seen on Roshar in The Way of Kings. She's too involved with events on Roshar to really consider going on a pleasure trip around the Cosmere, so even if she technically knows how to worldhop, I don't think she's really all that interested in doing so right now Its a good point about Jasnah.. but i would have probably thought the same thing about Vasher till we saw him on Roshar.. Anythings possible.. Nope, Warbreaker occurs quite a bit (about three hundred years or so) before SA, and Nightblood, as a direct sequel to Warbreaker also occurs quite a bit beforehand as well. Aslydin is in the Seventeeth Shard, and had her own work to be about. What am I missing? They aren't actually hopping between worlds, they are trudging between worlds in the cosmere.[20]. I thought that she had just died. I edited out the 4 questions not pertaining to the point. Jasnah Kholin is a worldhopper? There are around five in words of Radiance, http://www.theoryland.com/intvmain.php?i=1047#6, http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/7365-felt-the-worldhopper/?hl=%2Bfelt+%2Bworldhopper, Denizen of the Dark Alley, Head of R&D and Marketing. And we have WoB that a terriswoman is also hopping around. Sazed | Ruthless and violent, but also cunning, Hopper thinks nothing of killing ants, whom he considers lower than dirt, and his manner of speaking to Princess Atta is reminiscent of an abusive boyfriend mocking his terrified girlfriend. Baon wondered if there Hoid predates Shards and so does the letter recipient. being used to detect worldhopping. It might be the same for one of the other two guys at the Purelake, while the third one is functionally immortal, as far as we know. He is native to Scadrial, but hes been around for a while, and his motives are up in the air. The way that 'Y' is used in the name is perhaps what's making it feel a bit Terris, because of Tindwyl, though I think on further examination it's actually got more of a Thaylen feel (they really like agglomerations of consonants followed by 'Y' or 'I' sounds even more then the Terris). Um it's not a planet. All three of these agents have now appeared in published Cosmere works: Demoux (also known as Temoo or Thinker) is from Mistborn, Galladon (also known as Grump) is fromElantris, and Baon (referred to as Vao and Blunt) is from theWhite Sand graphic novels. Spook was Lord Mistborn, Breeze was his advisor, and Ham had his family. The philosophers of the various worlds often discuss the dangers and natures of ideas among a population. How do Worldhoppers communicate on all the cosmere worlds? south reno townhomes for rent / blackberry mousse cake / how did demoux become a worldhopper. Hoid | Brandon does not give a definitive answer on whether she convinced Demoux or not, however, she is a part of the Seventeenth Shard. There is an article by Drew McCaffrey on Worldhoppers here. Ok sorry in advance for maybe asking a stupid question but I always thought that atium is for seeing into the future and not for making myself live longer (gold is for that). When his companions begin to argue, he notices Ishikk listening in and directs the others to move their discussion to another language. Thanks! Demoux Press J to jump to the feed. When I pressed it (without wanting to) there was a -1 that appeared at the bottom of your, Magestar. In the Cognitive Realm, they are a horde; most are more like forces of nature rather than beings of intellect. N/A More interesting than their fruitless search for Hoid is who they are. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. His babsk, Iyatil, is even more mysterious. Giving us the mover, the tracker, and the fighter (blunt). The creation of Harmony must have attracted the attention of the 17th shard (if they weren't watching even before), and likely they looked for potential recruits among those closest to the events. Despite rain the past two days, Niwa warns the region is not out of the woods yet and authorities are urging caution as tinder [td_block_social_counter facebook=tagdiv twitter=tagdivofficial youtube=tagdiv style=style8 td-social-boxed td-social-font-icons tdc_css=eyJhbGwiOnsibWFyZ2luLWJvdHRvbSI6IjM4IiwiZGlzcGxheSI6IiJ9LCJwb3J0cmFpdCI6eyJtYXJnaW4tYm90dG9tIjoiMzAiLCJkaXNwbGF5IjoiIn0sInBvcnRyYWl0X21heF93aWR0aCI6MTAxOCwicG9ydHJhaXRfbWluX3dpZHRoIjo3Njh9 custom_title=Stay Connected block_template_id=td_block_template_8 f_header_font_family=712 f_header_font_transform=uppercase f_header_font_weight=500 f_header_font_size=17 border_color=#dd3333], Mt Benger proves why the shows must go on, Sanford wins by-election, low turnout a concern. Some of them are not. They seem to see themselves as a policing force, attempting to keep some kind of balance and observing the actions that are happening across the cosmere. I mean, he knows a bit about Investiture (from his conversation with Vivienne on BioChromatics) and he was already 300 years old by that time(fun fact, he's the first characters to name-drop Investiture in bookthough not necessarily the first in the time-line). Hoid is one of the oldest characters in the Cosmere, and was present at the mythical Shattering of Adonalsium, when all the Shards were created; he was even offered the chance to Ascend and take up a Shard himself, though he declined. So how could I get my hands on a copy of white sand? (Oh, and that Shardblade of hers? Worldhopping could take you outside of time, so the whole time difference isn't necessarily a problem. This may mean that Kell could permanently, via compounding, give Spook Feruchemical Atium. He found himself attached to the Kholin family, though his role inThe Stormlight Archive has been small thus far. My count of world-hoppers on Roshar is a little higher: HoidNazhGalladon / GrumpDemoux / ThinkerBaon / BluntMraizeVasher / Zahel. It would be lame otherwise. Hrm, suffixes seem to be a purely male trait in Vorin culture among the lighteyes I can't think of any woman who has one, unless we count the "i" in Navani. Hoid is likely both 1) and 3). Chaotic Good People can transition between the Physical and Cognitive Realms via perpendicularities, which tend to take the form of glowing pools. Sorry, title should say "Theories" not "Stories.". But as the peoples of these worlds grow, it becomes more and more likely that others will eventually learn of the secrets of the Shardpools. I have a personal hypothesis that after Kelsier was revived he brought Demoux into the fold and eventually Demoux joined the 17Shard. Darkeyes don't appear to have any sort of naming standard at all, apart from common phonemes. is, he wouldn't just leave Aslydin behind like that. He later becomes a worldhopper, travelling to Roshar in search of Hoid. We don't know the events that occurred between HoA and AoL. 3) Some benefit from relativistic effects.[2]. And Iyatil and Demoux and Sandersons published Cosmere books contain highly visible worldhoppers like the Vessels, Hoid, and Khrissalla, but they also contain Felt is also on Roshar, so maybe they left at a similar time. And he's a more central character than Demoux. Full Name Kaladin Stormblessed | As Alice and Megan covered in their recent article on Secret Societies of Roshar, the Ghostbloods include multiple members who are worldhoppers. A couple are more relevant than the rest. Forget blokes and their sheds this is all about the old fellas and their greenhouses. He could have gotten a Feruchemy medallion from Kell. He Perhaps the most notorious of all the worldhopping groups (thanks to the official Brandon Sanderson fan website), the Seventeenth Shard has actually been pretty quiet thus far inThe Stormlight Archive. If the compression effect of bendalloy and cadmium is assumed to be the same 8 to 1 ratio, a week in a CadBubble would propel one forward two months. There are powers of Investiture on Roshar that create holes or perpendicularities in the Cognitive Realm. WebSo Brandon has confirmed that Demoux's partner from The Hero of Ages, Aslydin, is a worldhopper and a member of the 17th shard, and that her name's ethnicity "should The only time manipulation for which there is solid evidence is in Allomancy, bendalloy and cadmium (within The Alloy of Law, Shadows of Self and The Bands of Mourning), and that's effectively a relativistic effect. Last week, Alice and Megan took a hard look at all of the secret societies operating on Roshar. It's also possible that, despite alternate, Scadrian ways to get between planets, Worldhoppers tend to use a single system which allows for buddies tagging along, or is focused/usable through devices or artifacts rather than or in addition to people. You have to admit, given the latest WoR chapters, that 'Seer' is a rather compelling name for atium users that could imply atium is used to see into Shadesmar as an alternate-use. We aren't really supposed to discuss unpublished works around here, so I don't know if I should tell you who he is, but suffice it to say that it will be pretty obvious once you've read it. Rock, inWords of Radiance, notes that he saw Wit in the Horneater Peaks, coming out of a lake that the Horneaters think is a portal between worlds. Stormfather | If there is concrete WoB I'd like to see it. 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